NWGAS Minutes -- Saturday 4th April, 1998

The meeting of the NWGAS was held at the invitation of Andrew Bate, C/o Chester Astronomical Society, at Hatton Farm, Waverton, Cheshire. Thanks immediately go to Andrew, his wife and family, for a warm welcome to their home and subsequent tour of his very enviable observatory. The meeting was chaired by Richard Sargent; Chester AS.

  Societies present

Chester, Campaign for Dark Skies, Gwynedd, Manchester and Salford. Apologies for absence were received from Altrincham AS and Macclesfield AS.

Minutes of the last NWGAS meeting, 17th Jan, 1998, at the Godlee Observatory, C/o Manchester AS: Minutes were accepted. There were no matters arising that are not discussed below.

  NWGAS Notice Board at Jodrell Bank

The NWGAS information board had fallen into total disrepair and had been removed. KJK apologised for this and will address the provision of the replacement ASAP.

  May Bank Holiday at Jodrell

Via KJK, Cherry Moss asked societies to let her know if they wanted to attend. (This invitation was subsequently cancelled owing to a miserable lack of NWGAS support; apart from that of Macclesfield, Salford and Manchester ASs. This wasn't enough to make it viable.)

  Campaign for Dark Skies

Peter Wilson said that he had been sent a registration form to endorse application for a grant to have his local church floodlit for the millennium! This, after having written to the vicar to solicit his opinion on light pollution! However, in contrast, the Rev. Canon Brian Young, at Saint Phillip's Church, Alderley Edge, agreed to meet sky-friendly criteria re lighting of that building.

Morrison's proposed superstore, Crewe: A letter has been sent to the planning dept outlining preferred lighting. Reply awaited.

Hulme Park, Salford: Peter awaiting reply to letter sent to the lighting engineers to reconsider the 25 up-lighters in favour of restricted lamps.

Peter reported that Mr Walsh, from Liverpool AS, had written to him expressing his concern that demolition of high-rise flats, to be replaced with houses, could increase the overall effect of light pollution in the area. Liverpool Housing Trust are looking into the matter on behalf of Mr Walsh and CfDS.

Vale Royal have implemented a lighting policy sympathetic to CfDS. Bob Mizon and Peter are arranging a CfDS, 'Good Lighting Award', for Vale Royal Borough Council for fitting full cut-off lights in the carpark at Northwich Memorial Hall.

Cliff Meredith, (Salford AS), distributed a three page report, " Some aspects and Experiences of Light Pollution from 1988 to 1998". This describes the effect of increased urban light pollution on Cliff's astronomical observations from north-west Manchester and the constructive way in which he has been obliged to change his observing methods to minimise the problem.

  Federation of Astronomy Societies

Ron Kelley was not available to give an update on recent meetings.

Tony Cross (Manchester AS) suggested that the FAS AGM should be held in Manchester. This he would propose when attending the next FAS AGM meeting, with MO and KJK, in Newbury, on 9th May.

  NWGAS on the WWW

The web pages continue to have a steady stream of visitors but Mike Oates said that the NWGAS members were not keeping their pages sufficiently up to date. Old news is no news. Even small societies had something to offer and could benefit from telling the world when they met and what they did...think of visitors to your region wanting to meet with your society. ( I am an occasional visitor to the Isle of Wight's, excellent and very active, Vectis AS. But I do wish they had a web page... Two of us, from the Manchester AS, missed their May meeting... Sec.)

Do send details of your society to Mike.

Michael Oates
Email:
Homepage: http://www.ph.u-net.com

  Any Other Business

1. Ernie Greenwood, Gwynedd AS, said that his was a small society with about ten active members, all with telescopes, who encouraged local membership, especially young people. Gwynedd AS advertised in local libraries and often worked with schools to encourage astronomical interest.

2. NWGAS reminder! In these days of political correctness, it is important when contacting schools to introduce your society formally, preferably in writing, to the Headmaster and leave it to him, if he is interested, to follow up your invitation. It is definitely inadvisable to approach a school informally, say, via the Science Master, without the Headmaster's approval.....Sec.

3. Manchester AS have discovered that an old star atlas, in their library since before WW2, is the very rare, Uranographia Britannica , by Dr John Bevis, London, (c.a. 1750). Investigation by Mike Oates, via many e-mails to the RAS and Prof William B Ashworth, University of Missouri, lead to the initial identification. The atlas was also authenticated following Tony Cross's approach to John Ryland's Library, University of Manchester, who immediately notified the British Library of the discovery. Subsequently, Kevin Kilburn, assisted by Ashworth's original work and Prof Owen Gingerich at the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysical Research, has shown that the Manchester Uranographia is one of the very best of only sixteen currently known to exist. (There may be others awaiting discovery.) Comparisons have been made with those in the British Library, the RAS Library, St John's College and University Library, Cambridge, where the other UK copies are located. The Manchester Uranographia is, internationally, the only one in the possession of any amateur astronomical society. It is intended that this very valuable atlas will be lodged at an appropriate library in Manchester and made available for academic study upon written application to the MAS.

  Next NWGAS meeting

11am, Saturday, 18th July, at the Godlee Observatory, UMIST, Sackville Street, Manchester. C/o Manchester AS (pp Salford AS).
K J Kilburn. 24th March 1998

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